Remotec ZRC-90 Scene Master

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Remotec ZRC-90 Scene Master

Post by Heursqem » Wednesday 29 June 2016 18:03

I just bought this great remote control to initiate scene activation

https://www.robbshop.nl/scene-master

Only now I understand that this device is not supported by Domoticz

Any having plans to build the needed librabry?

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Re: Remotec ZRC-90 Scene Master

Post by tequila » Thursday 25 August 2016 10:56

oh, I was just about to buy one too...

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Re: Remotec ZRC-90 Scene Master

Post by DanM » Thursday 25 August 2016 16:48

Me too. did you get it to work?

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Re: Remotec ZRC-90 Scene Master

Post by DanM » Thursday 25 August 2016 18:12

Done some digging on this and it looks like the command class isnt yet supported by OZW. I have no idea how much work it is to add to Domoticz once implemented there, but for now it seems this is an OZW issue rather than one for here.

On the plus side.. there are quite a few devices turning up with this command class so I would expect an implementation to be relatively forthcoming.

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Re: Remotec ZRC-90 Scene Master

Post by tequila » Friday 26 August 2016 6:16

that's a valuable information indeed. so no go for the moment. hopefully we will see things moving soon

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Re: Remotec ZRC-90 Scene Master

Post by tequila » Friday 26 August 2016 6:29

by the way can't this be used as a simple switch via the Learn Light/Switch option? I am quite new to Domoticz and I am not quite sure how this works, but ZRC-90 is being sold as a 'scene' controller. For my purposes it would be good enough if it worked as a simple HW switch used in Events scripts.

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Re: Remotec ZRC-90 Scene Master

Post by DanM » Friday 26 August 2016 12:10

I dont believe so (I think that the class must be properly recognised by OZW before it would work there (and even then Im not sure if the learn switch only applies to RFlink/RFXCOM).. but Id be happy to be wrong). Some of the 'scene class' stuff has a backwards compatability via the setup parameters but it looks like the ZRC-90 doesn't.

Edit / addition:

It might be possible to read the openzwave logs and react to that (asuming you can include it in the network). Its not as quick, but it might as least save a £40 device going into a drawer. Id also be very interested to see if your idea above works!

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Re: Remotec ZRC-90 Scene Master

Post by renerene » Saturday 03 September 2016 14:55

Heursqem wrote:Only now I understand that this device is not supported by Domoticz
That makes two of us. Aaarrrghhh.
Included node: 8
Unknown: type=0001, id=8510

Last post on Google Group is from june 2016

The device is listed on Open Zwave device website as XML, but I have no idea if this is usefull, or what to do with it.

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Re: Remotec ZRC-90 Scene Master

Post by Deydier » Saturday 24 September 2016 23:09

renerene wrote:
Heursqem wrote:Only now I understand that this device is not supported by Domoticz
That makes two of us. Aaarrrghhh.
Included node: 8
Unknown: type=0001, id=8510

Last post on Google Group is from june 2016

The device is listed on Open Zwave device website as XML, but I have no idea if this is usefull, or what to do with it.
That makes three of us. Aaarrrghhh....

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Re: Remotec ZRC-90 Scene Master

Post by DanM » Thursday 29 September 2016 12:40

Looks like some work is being done on this on the openzwave end.

https://github.com/OpenZWave/open-zwave/pull/993

I'm keen to buy one of these so as soon as someone gets it working Id love it if they feedback here.

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Re: Remotec ZRC-90 Scene Master

Post by GiantLeap » Thursday 20 October 2016 13:18

Last post on Github is 12 days ago. If you have this device, does it work partially, or not at all with Domoticz?

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Re: Remotec ZRC-90 Scene Master

Post by renerene » Friday 21 October 2016 21:17

It does not work with Domoticz.
Allthough there is activity at github, I have got no clue when OZW will support it, or how much work is further needed to make it work.

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Re: Remotec ZRC-90 Scene Master

Post by eltinio » Wednesday 14 December 2016 21:46

I believe the detection of the remote has improved since the last domoticz update.
The node is now recognized as Remotec ZRC-90, the last seen date is changed when a button is pressed but I'm not able to make it appear at the devices page.

Based on what I've found on a nodon remote it needs to be grouped with the controller (I checked this) and tot switch scene type on the configuration tab.
The problem is that I don't have any configuration options other than poling enable/disable.
I've tried the control panel and have some options there but none of them result in the ability to use the remove.

Is the lack of configuration options because it's not fully supported or can those configurations be set somewhere else?

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Re: Remotec ZRC-90 Scene Master

Post by Domosapiens » Thursday 22 December 2016 2:03

Take a look at how other remote controls are integrated:
http://www.domoticz.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=6262
and
http://www.domoticz.com/forum/viewtopic ... te+control
and Rob (Gizmocuz) made also a post on solution for the Minimote RC.
http://www.domoticz.com/forum/search.ph ... s=minimote
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Re: Remotec ZRC-90 Scene Master

Post by eltinio » Thursday 22 December 2016 11:35

Thnx for the directions I would like to start tweaking the .xml file to get a configuration for the ZRC -90.

The problem I have is kinda dumb an that is that I don't know there the .xml files are located so I can edit them?
I've seen talk about the manufacturer_specific.xml file but I can't even find that.

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Re: Remotec ZRC-90 Scene Master

Post by Domosapiens » Thursday 22 December 2016 17:43

Look in your Domoticz/Config folder for manufacturer_specific.xml.
Remotec ZRC-90 is already included.
Look in the Remotec folder for zrc-90.xml: it does look as very minimal (work in progress)
Configure the ZRC-90 as secondary controller.
Create the connections via Hardware -> Z-Wave (primary) controller blue setup button -> Node management -> Groups & Network
There I expect 8 groups plus a lifeline to the primary controller.
There you can make direct connections between your ZRC-90 and other Z-Wave devices.
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Re: Remotec ZRC-90 Scene Master

Post by gizmocuz » Saturday 25 February 2017 11:15

In the upcoming beta (#6788+), ''initial'' support for command_class_central_scene (0x5b) has been included

There is still a problem that the scenes are not automatically being created, and i think this is an openzwave issue, but openzwave thinks not

Anyway, if you are on the latest beta version, i suspect button '1' should work directly.
To get the other buttons working, stop domoticz, edit the zwave configuration file (zwcfg_xxxx.xml) and add the scenes manual inside the config file like:

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 			<CommandClass id="91" name="COMMAND_CLASS_CENTRAL_SCENE"
then in between, add the (missing) scenes:

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			<CommandClass id="91" name="COMMAND_CLASS_CENTRAL_SCENE" version="1" request_flags="4" innif="true" scenecount="0">
				<Instance index="1" />
				<Value type="int" genre="system" instance="1" index="0" label="Scene Count" units="" read_only="true" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="-2147483648" max="2147483647" value="0" />
				<Value type="int" genre="user" instance="1" index="1" label="Scene 1" units="" read_only="true" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="-2147483648" max="2147483647" value="0" />
				<Value type="int" genre="user" instance="1" index="2" label="Scene 2" units="" read_only="true" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="-2147483648" max="2147483647" value="0" />
				<Value type="int" genre="user" instance="1" index="3" label="Scene 3" units="" read_only="true" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="-2147483648" max="2147483647" value="0" />
				<Value type="int" genre="user" instance="1" index="4" label="Scene 4" units="" read_only="true" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="-2147483648" max="2147483647" value="0" />
				<Value type="int" genre="user" instance="1" index="5" label="Scene 5" units="" read_only="true" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="-2147483648" max="2147483647" value="0" />
				<Value type="int" genre="user" instance="1" index="6" label="Scene 6" units="" read_only="true" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="-2147483648" max="2147483647" value="0" />
				<Value type="int" genre="user" instance="1" index="7" label="Scene 7" units="" read_only="true" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="-2147483648" max="2147483647" value="0" />
				<Value type="int" genre="user" instance="1" index="8" label="Scene 8" units="" read_only="true" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="-2147483648" max="2147483647" value="0" />
			</CommandClass>
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Re: Remotec ZRC-90 Scene Master

Post by DanM » Friday 10 March 2017 13:49

Thanks for this. Not withstanding that this is very early days and therefore very much buyer beware.. would you expect this to work with other deivces that use the central scene class - Im thinking the new Wallmote for example?

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Re: Remotec ZRC-90 Scene Master

Post by Freemann » Sunday 07 May 2017 10:33

trying to add the lines to the "zwcfg_xxx" file, but after after "domoticz start" the lines gone.
Als my Remotec shows no config uptions in "Hardware>OpenZWave USB":
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Re: Remotec ZRC-90 Scene Master

Post by mcflyyy » Thursday 11 May 2017 21:11

I have the same problem.

I can see the remote in device list but not the configuration below.

No scene or switch added ... Did you try to switch the remote in "secondary controller mode" ( no success for mee )

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