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Cheap discrete ip cameras?

Post by burton666 » Wednesday 21 June 2017 10:35

I am planning to add alot of ipcameras to my home to be used as motion-detectors and hopefully some sort of more reliable human presence detection. But I am struggling to find any cameras which looks pretty descrete and are also so cheap that I can buy 8-10 cameras.
My demands are:

Cheap 20-30EUR
Discrete looking
Wifi: N standard
To be able to access from internet browser or similar.
Resolution is not important as I only need 320x240-640x320

I have found some small 360 camera that fills all my needs BUT is NOT accessible from anything other than Android/IOS. I don't know what kind of magic they use for the videostreams but it is very difficult to access them from http. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mini-360-Degree ... SwLEtYmuGH

Also this Xiaomi camera looks pretty good but I cant understand if it is possible to use them any longer as they now claim that they can't be used in America/EU any longer. http://www.gearbest.com/ip-cameras/pp_487830.html

Does anyone have any better suggestions of other cameras or similar?

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Re: Cheap discrete ip cameras?

Post by EdwinK » Wednesday 21 June 2017 10:58

Did you read this topic. Maybe it will work for this camera as well.
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Re: Cheap discrete ip cameras?

Post by burton666 » Wednesday 21 June 2017 11:36

Yes, I started that thread, but I still can't find any way to access the camera from any other external device.

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Post by martgadget » Thursday 27 July 2017 10:43

I assume there is an android app for the camera you are trying to interface to?

if this is the case, try getting the android APK file and de-compiling it to see what the vendor is doing to get to the camera. I did this with the Salus IT500 thermostat app and it revealed everything i needed to know about talking to the device.

hope that helps

Mart.

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Re: Cheap discrete ip cameras?

Post by martgadget » Thursday 27 July 2017 10:43

you can also de-compile .net apps for windows as well and get the source, so if they ship a .NET app then you could use that as well.

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Re: Cheap discrete ip cameras?

Post by LouiS22 » Friday 28 July 2017 14:08

burton666 wrote:I am planning to add alot of ipcameras to my home to be used as motion-detectors and hopefully some sort of more reliable human presence detection. But I am struggling to find any cameras which looks pretty descrete and are also so cheap that I can buy 8-10 cameras.
My demands are:

Cheap 20-30EUR
Discrete looking
Wifi: N standard
To be able to access from internet browser or similar.
Resolution is not important as I only need 320x240-640x320

I have found some small 360 camera that fills all my needs BUT is NOT accessible from anything other than Android/IOS. I don't know what kind of magic they use for the videostreams but it is very difficult to access them from http. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mini-360-Degree ... SwLEtYmuGH

Also this Xiaomi camera looks pretty good but I cant understand if it is possible to use them any longer as they now claim that they can't be used in America/EU any longer. http://www.gearbest.com/ip-cameras/pp_487830.html

Does anyone have any better suggestions of other cameras or similar?
About the Xiaomi Camera (Xiaofang): there's a hack running from an SD card (called fang hacks) which solves the china mainland only issue. Downside: it also disables the xiaomi app, so you loose those functions as well. But it also enables RTSP which you can access from your internal network. Keep in mind: domoticz doesn't handle RTSP streams.

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Re: Cheap discrete ip cameras?

Post by Gambit » Friday 28 July 2017 15:25

https://github.com/ccrisan/motioneye/wiki

Possible option to swap out the pi for the cheaper Orange Pi Zero and its basic camera.

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Re: Cheap discrete ip cameras?

Post by borewicz » Monday 21 August 2017 10:41

There's new Xiaomi camera comming soon:
https://www.banggood.com/Xiaomi-MIjia-H ... 81323.html

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Re: Cheap discrete ip cameras?

Post by steef84 » Wednesday 23 August 2017 20:55

Interresting price: to buy or not to buy ...
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Re: Cheap discrete ip cameras?

Post by Timmeh4 » Wednesday 16 May 2018 18:19

martgadget wrote:
Thursday 27 July 2017 10:43
I assume there is an android app for the camera you are trying to interface to?

if this is the case, try getting the android APK file and de-compiling it to see what the vendor is doing to get to the camera. I did this with the Salus IT500 thermostat app and it revealed everything i needed to know about talking to the device.

hope that helps

Mart.
I know it's and old post but i want to know how you did this because i have the same thermostat and want to control it with domoticz.

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Re: Cheap discrete ip cameras?

Post by heggink » Monday 25 June 2018 14:52

I never liked the ET phone home aspect of teh Chinese cameras so built my own using a cheap 5v power supply (AliExpress), raspberry pi zero w, my own 3d printed enclosure (https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2807761) and an AliExpress ir cur lens (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-Ras ... 83732.html).

Not sure what the exact price tag was but probably around 20 bucks or so (mainly lens and pi).

On top, I run motioneye in fast network camera mode connected to a motioneye server installation on my NAS that does the motion detection.

Everything works really well and no unwanted connections to any other place than my home + fine integration with domoticz.
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