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Re: Wall Mount Tablet - Amazon Fire £50

Posted: Friday 11 December 2015 22:30
by technoholic
Tried that but it's at the highest and no difference. If there is barely any light in the room then that won't work.

If I could touch to wake it would be OK. But can't work out how to do that

Re: Wall Mount Tablet - Amazon Fire £50

Posted: Saturday 12 December 2015 0:41
by thebeetleuk
@technoholic - One thing I have just noticed. the motion application only seems to wakeup the tablet when I'm running imperihome. I'm assuming the imperihome application is monitoring for a signal from the system to wakeup.

Also I noticed that the screen doesn't quite turn off. It seems to go blank but the backlight is still on. Is this the same with yours?

also I have just tested in the dark and its nt looking good. hmm. more thought required. Still great for the day time however.

Re: Wall Mount Tablet - Amazon Fire £50

Posted: Saturday 12 December 2015 2:01
by technoholic
No I don't use imperihome, and no it turns off the screen fully, not just go blank.

Re: Wall Mount Tablet - Amazon Fire £50

Posted: Monday 14 December 2015 20:18
by thebeetleuk
What app do you use?

I'm having some very temperamental results with the motion sensor application. I'll need to keep working on it. I do however have the fire mounted on the wall :)

Re: Wall Mount Tablet - Amazon Fire £50

Posted: Sunday 20 December 2015 13:57
by technoholic
i use command fusion and demopad to create custom remote interfaces, they are on all my iPad/android remotes around the house.

I do find that the motion detector is temperamental, i find it responds a lot to changes in light level that comes in through the window, so it can come on randomly, though i need to mess with the sensitivity

Re: Wall mount Tablet - Amazon Fire £50

Posted: Sunday 20 December 2015 20:23
by trekker25
technoholic wrote:The dimensions from memory are 115x192. These are the standard dimensions found on the amazon fire specs. The depth of the frame is around 20mm i think but i could have got away with smaller. The width of each edge of the frame is 30mm which is needed to carve out enough space for the USB plug but if you can find a low profile micro usb cable them you might be able to get away with less. I can't remember where i ordered it from off the top of my head, but there are many online companies that make custom picture frames like this, just search for that. I just ordered mine without any glass or extras.

For the screen, i use motion detector app, with Tasker (with the secure settings plugin) which takes the output of motion detector and uses that as a trigger to perform an action. In this case, when the motion is detected (using the front camera) it sends that to Tasker, and taker performs the action to wake the device up. I've disabled all lock screens etc so that it goes straight into the app I'm using for control.
I also have Motion Detector / No Lock / Tasker running. But how reliable is it for you?

Seems to that if it's running for couple of hours it doesn't work anymore. and not sure if Tasker or Motion Detector is causing the issue! Every time i come down after a night, it doesnt work anymore.

Re: Wall mount Tablet - Amazon Fire £50

Posted: Tuesday 22 December 2015 16:48
by thebeetleuk
trekker25 wrote: I also have Motion Detector / No Lock / Tasker running. But how reliable is it for you?

Seems to that if it's running for couple of hours it doesn't work anymore. and not sure if Tasker or Motion Detector is causing the issue! Every time i come down after a night, it doesnt work anymore.
I had it working for a bit but have given up for the moment as I dont think its that reliable. That combined with the fact it doesnt work in the dark is a bit of a showstopper for me :(

I'm still working on my wall mount at the moment. Have you mounted yours? Do you have a pic?

Re: Wall Mount Tablet - Amazon Fire £50

Posted: Wednesday 23 December 2015 0:40
by thebeetleuk
OK so I tried to go the wireless charging route so I can remove the tablet from the wall if I want. All was looking good until I went to do the actual install today as when I initially tested the wireless charging unit I didn't realise that the fire wasn't fully charged. Unfortunately, it seems as if the charger doesn't want to charge the fire unless it's <70% battery (or at least it doesn't show up as charging). This is obviously a problem as the fire will just turn off when its not on the mains and this isn't what I'm looking for. See below some pictures of my test. Lets see how things go :)

Making the holder for the charger:
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Holding it in place. I cut way too close to the edge so the bottom right part fell off. Will fix this for version 2 assuming all goes well.
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The tablet mounted to the wall (Planning on hiding the cable once I have things working:
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The fire is now at 100% (via a standard usb socket). Lets see what happens overnight on the wireless charger. I'll report back.
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Re: Wall mount Tablet - Amazon Fire £50

Posted: Wednesday 23 December 2015 0:41
by trekker25
thebeetleuk wrote:
trekker25 wrote: I also have Motion Detector / No Lock / Tasker running. But how reliable is it for you?

Seems to that if it's running for couple of hours it doesn't work anymore. and not sure if Tasker or Motion Detector is causing the issue! Every time i come down after a night, it doesnt work anymore.
I had it working for a bit but have given up for the moment as I dont think its that reliable. That combined with the fact it doesnt work in the dark is a bit of a showstopper for me :(

I'm still working on my wall mount at the moment. Have you mounted yours? Do you have a pic?
Still hope to get it reliable, it's still pretty neat during the day/evening with lights on! I have the idea that Chrome is causing the Tablet/Tasker to go on low memory. Testing Dolphin Browser if it causes the same!

Also when you want to it to work at night: use a motion sensor and switch a light!

Wall mount:
https://www.vogels.com/en-us/c/tms-1010 ... -wall-pack

not the cheapest one, but really works nice and looks slick and tablet can turn 360 degrees (if you want to quickly change to portrait mode). But maybe the turning is showstopper for you :)

Re: Wall mount Tablet - Amazon Fire £50

Posted: Wednesday 23 December 2015 0:51
by thebeetleuk
trekker25 wrote: Wall mount:
https://www.vogels.com/en-us/c/tms-1010 ... -wall-pack

not the cheapest one, but really works nice and looks slick and tablet can turn 360 degrees (if you want to quickly change to portrait mode). But maybe the turning is showstopper for you :)
Looks like this needs a minimum of 150mm and the fire is only 115mm :) Looks good tho. Still the issue with charging. If I only had that 3D printer :)

Re: Wall mount Tablet - Amazon Fire £50

Posted: Wednesday 23 December 2015 11:11
by trekker25
thebeetleuk wrote:
trekker25 wrote: Wall mount:
https://www.vogels.com/en-us/c/tms-1010 ... -wall-pack

not the cheapest one, but really works nice and looks slick and tablet can turn 360 degrees (if you want to quickly change to portrait mode). But maybe the turning is showstopper for you :)
Looks like this needs a minimum of 150mm and the fire is only 115mm :) Looks good tho. Still the issue with charging. If I only had that 3D printer :)
Imageimage by Joris Kempen, on Flickr

the power cable needs to be connected and i will drill a hole in the wall (just behind the tablet, nice i can spin it arount!) and get the cable to the other side of the wall where a socket is available!

Reliabillity Tasker + Motion Detector: pretty sure it's a memory issue caused by the browser! Will be testing the Tasker + Motion Detector for couple of days with just the tablet home screen running!

Re: Wall Mount Tablet - Amazon Fire £50

Posted: Wednesday 23 December 2015 11:51
by thebeetleuk
Looking good! What are you going to use to connect into the tablet?

My test last night didn't work :(

It looks like it isn't charging at all now. Strange. The only thing I can think of is that I'm now using a 5 meter USB cable so I could have a drop in the voltage over that length of cable. More testing required but its not looking good.

Re: Wall Mount Tablet - Amazon Fire £50

Posted: Wednesday 23 December 2015 13:39
by trekker25
Cable Will be plugged in tablet on left side. Than cable will be folded behind the tablet and go through the wall!

Re: Wall Mount Tablet - Amazon Fire £50

Posted: Monday 28 December 2015 13:05
by gflvern
How are you stopping the tablet from locking?

I've got motion detection and tasker waking up the tablet but I still get the lock screen so have to swipe to bring up the home screen.

I've rooted the Fire, it's running 5.1.1

gfl

Re: Wall Mount Tablet - Amazon Fire £50

Posted: Monday 28 December 2015 21:35
by thebeetleuk
erm... from memory its in the developer section of the settings. something like... "Don't lock screen when plugged in."

Re: Wall Mount Tablet - Amazon Fire £50

Posted: Monday 28 December 2015 23:49
by gflvern
thebeetleuk wrote:erm... from memory its in the developer section of the settings. something like... "Don't lock screen when plugged in."
Ah ok thanks, saw that. Was hoping to do it when it wasn't plugged in too.

Re: Wall Mount Tablet - Amazon Fire £50

Posted: Tuesday 05 January 2016 17:23
by technoholic
I'm sure on mine i just disabled it in the security option, where you set passcode and so on, i think i just turned off the lock screen, nothing more than that if i remember correctly, however I am using a CM Build of Android, not the standard Kindle build.

Re: Wall Mount Tablet - Amazon Fire £50

Posted: Tuesday 05 January 2016 21:04
by gflvern
technoholic wrote:I'm sure on mine i just disabled it in the security option, where you set passcode and so on, i think i just turned off the lock screen, nothing more than that if i remember correctly, however I am using a CM Build of Android, not the standard Kindle build.
Think that might be down to the CM build you are using, might have to go down that route. Given that Amazon sell the kindle with the lock screen as a key part of the functionally for the adverts I think that's why I can't find a setting to turn it off. Though I have disabled the adverts as part of installing google play store and rooting the device.

Thanks

Re: Wall Mount Tablet - Amazon Fire £50

Posted: Friday 05 February 2016 18:54
by technoholic
Just a quick resurrection of this thread.

I've found a plugin written by the developer of Motion Detector, for the app itself that is specifically designed to turn the screen on with motion, without having to mess around with profiles in Tasker, in fact don't need to use Tasker at all unless you need something more complicated. I found many links to it on the web but none of them worked except one, so if anyone wants it and can't find it i'll try and upload it somewhere.

Also, I have found a great little POE module in case anyone has Ethernet running to a backbone behind their tablet, again I can share details if anyone wants.

Re: Wall Mount Tablet - Amazon Fire £50

Posted: Friday 05 February 2016 19:03
by G3rard
@technoholic, please share the link of the plugin. The combination with tasker is not working fine here.