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Re: RE: Re: Cheap chinese z-wave products

Post by Justintime » Monday 02 January 2017 11:47

mschut wrote:is the fuse replaceable? Prefer that in stead of returning.

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Yes and no.... If you can solder, and know what you are doing you can replace it with the same type.

It's the green blobby thing. Normally they are self resetting fuses. So if something is short circuit they will reset after some time.

But I don't take any responsibility if something goes wrong.
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Re: Cheap chinese z-wave products

Post by mschut » Monday 02 January 2017 11:49

will return them ;)

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Re: Cheap chinese z-wave products

Post by Luigi87 » Monday 02 January 2017 15:02

I have now several NEO products in my system. there all working fine, exept one "the alarm unit" (http://www.szneo.com/en/products/show.php?id=194) i cannot set any parameters. i think it is not reconised by open Z-wave.
What do i have to do to set the Parameters?

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Re: RE: Re: Cheap chinese z-wave products

Post by nieass » Monday 02 January 2017 15:28

Luigi87 wrote:I have now several NEO products in my system. there all working fine, exept one "the alarm unit" (http://www.szneo.com/en/products/show.php?id=194) i cannot set any parameters. i think it is not reconised by open Z-wave.
What do i have to do to set the Parameters?
I created the XML file for it. Still have to upload it :)

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Re: RE: Re: Cheap chinese z-wave products

Post by Luigi87 » Monday 02 January 2017 15:37

nieass wrote:
Luigi87 wrote:I have now several NEO products in my system. there all working fine, exept one "the alarm unit" (http://www.szneo.com/en/products/show.php?id=194) i cannot set any parameters. i think it is not reconised by open Z-wave.
What do i have to do to set the Parameters?
I created the XML file for it. Still have to upload it :)

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Oke nice, Upload to open Z-wave you mean?
Can i somehow add it into my system? i have no idea what to do :? and I would like to change some parameters

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Re: Cheap chinese z-wave products

Post by domcao » Monday 02 January 2017 18:40

trixwood wrote:
Really don't understand all the fuzz of the ground pin... Looks well to me.
Well that the insurance won't pay when you burn you're house down...

But no fuse? Really?
FYI: the ground pin has nothing to do with fire-risks.

And talking about insurance: I am in doubt your own insurance will be paying when you burn your house down after posting your pictures of your home safety situation:
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No I am not a seller ...... just BS-allergic

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Re: Cheap chinese z-wave products

Post by trixwood » Monday 02 January 2017 20:03

It was a reference to the fuse, not the ground... and somebody was kind enough to give more information about it.
No I am not a seller ...... just BS-allergic
Why are you a seller? or NOT a seller? And in what relation is this comment related to me? I could care less if you are a seller or not :roll:

I think the bullshit you referring to is your own. You assume that photo is from my home, you assume something about a seller which has no reference to me at all, you assume I was referring to the ground instead of the fuse, you assume I have insurance... you probably assume I am male. Assumptions are the veil which keeps the truth for you.

But nice of the positive critiqued and feedback on my most excellent cheap belgium mysensors product!
https://github.com/Tristan79/Vento

And safety issues you can post in the issues....

arsehole

btw that later is not an assumption, just an observation.

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Re: Cheap chinese z-wave products

Post by mschut » Monday 02 January 2017 20:19

could you please take this discussion somewhere else, or preferably, just stop it. It's childish.

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Post by LouiS22 » Monday 02 January 2017 20:57

trixwood wrote:It was a reference to the fuse, not the ground... and somebody was kind enough to give more information about it.
No I am not a seller ...... just BS-allergic
Why are you a seller? or NOT a seller? And in what relation is this comment related to me? I could care less if you are a seller or not :roll:

I think the bullshit you referring to is your own. You assume that photo is from my home, you assume something about a seller which has no reference to me at all, you assume I was referring to the ground instead of the fuse, you assume I have insurance... you probably assume I am male. Assumptions are the veil which keeps the truth for you.

But nice of the positive critiqued and feedback on my most excellent cheap belgium mysensors product!
https://github.com/Tristan79/Vento

And safety issues you can post in the issues....

arsehole

btw that later is not an assumption, just an observation.
The seller assumption was from a post before where a "kind" fellow user accused me being a seller ;)

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Post by trixwood » Monday 02 January 2017 20:58

You also assume. There is no discussion with "The Seller", you need two open minds for that, and one of those is missing.
And please play dad to someone else, or preferably, just stop it. It's foolish.

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Post by trixwood » Tuesday 03 January 2017 20:11

The seller assumption was from a post before where a "kind" fellow user accused me being a seller
*sign*

An aggressive teardown, misinformation about fuses, random user accusation about sellers... :roll:
So I find this funny after scrolling through this thread:

Fibaro track record of burning z-wave power plugs and dimmers...
http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php?topic=28017.0

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Re: Cheap chinese z-wave products

Post by LouiS22 » Tuesday 03 January 2017 21:27

trixwood wrote:
The seller assumption was from a post before where a "kind" fellow user accused me being a seller
*sign*

An aggressive teardown, misinformation about fuses, random user accusation about sellers... :roll:
So I find this funny after scrolling through this thread:

Fibaro track record of burning z-wave power plugs and dimmers...
http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php?topic=28017.0
Then don't buy these stuff. This topic was created (yes, by me) to provide information on chinese made stuff. No, I'm really not a seller, even a reseller, etc. I understand you have doubts, also your finding is important - one can decide whether to buy or not to buy these things. Let"s get this topic back on track - maybe one should create a subtopic on safety issues, worries, findings - it would be good to have that IMHO.

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Post by trixwood » Tuesday 03 January 2017 22:52

This thread is so much fun: First I get used as a scapegoat, for someone grudge out of nowhere, belittle for commenting on it, now you preaching to the wrong person about doubts and sellers and buying.

The only doubt I have is that someone reading this thread is none the wiser in the end. If you want to get on topic please give a summarization! And filter out the bullshit info from the real info.

And please ask a moderator to edit this thread and let 'em remove all this negative bullshit... That how you get on topic. ;)

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Re: Cheap chinese z-wave products

Post by sincze » Wednesday 04 January 2017 1:54

My 50 cents as I like this topic where we show each other how to build/buy champagne sensors for lemonade money.

Most Neo Coolcam devices do work with domoticz and are even being sold here in the Netherlands by a Dutch company at a price slightly higher then on aliexpress . (10 euros higher)

Being sold here I think should mean they pass the CE checkmark (not the China Export). As they are being sold here me as a consumer should consider them safe.

Doing your own import has the potential danger of buying Chinese copies of devices that don't meet CE.

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Re: Cheap chinese z-wave products

Post by Luigi87 » Wednesday 04 January 2017 10:06

Luigi87 wrote:I have now several NEO products in my system. there all working fine, exept one "the alarm unit" (http://www.szneo.com/en/products/show.php?id=194) i cannot set any parameters. i think it is not reconised by open Z-wave.
What do i have to do to set the Parameters?
Can someone please help me out with this?
What do i have to do for this?

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Post by LouiS22 » Wednesday 04 January 2017 10:07

sincze wrote:My 50 cents as I like this topic where we show each other how to build/buy champagne sensors for lemonade money.

Most Neo Coolcam devices do work with domoticz and are even being sold here in the Netherlands by a Dutch company at a price slightly higher then on aliexpress . (10 euros higher)

Being sold here I think should mean they pass the CE checkmark (not the China Export). As they are being sold here me as a consumer should consider them safe.

Doing your own import has the potential danger of buying Chinese copies of devices that don't meet CE.

How about that for summary :)
Also you can get a rebranded - but clearly Neo stuff, namely the door sensor - at amazon.de (as far as I remember it's Cyrus or something like that).

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Re: Cheap chinese z-wave products

Post by mschut » Saturday 07 January 2017 11:27

I notice the power plugs don't work with my fridge and oven. Anyone know why not? Can not find a max Wattage. Although my fridge will not need much. The dryer is working fine...

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Re: Cheap chinese z-wave products

Post by sincze » Saturday 07 January 2017 12:25

I guess 2000w according to https://www.robbshop.nl/tussenstekker-2 ... eo-coolcam

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Re: Cheap chinese z-wave products

Post by trixwood » Saturday 07 January 2017 16:19

That's quoting from an unverified source. According to the box max is 12A (i am a bit rusty, correct me if I am wrong, but that makes it at 230V: 2760 Watt)
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Post by sincze » Sunday 08 January 2017 3:08

trixwood wrote:That's quoting from an unverified source. According to the box max is 12A (i am a bit rusty, correct me if I am wrong, but that makes it at 230V: 2760 Watt)

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Maybe this is verified??
Quoting... :D http://www.szneo.com/en/products/show.php?id=189
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