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Re: Cheap chinese z-wave products

Post by Hobbybob » Wednesday 07 June 2017 9:48

Do these door sensors provide a battery-level in Domoitcz, or at least a signal when the battery is getting low?

I'm looking into zwave door sensors at the moment, but this is a feature that seems to be missing on quite a few of these.

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Re: Cheap chinese z-wave products

Post by LouiS22 » Wednesday 07 June 2017 11:53

Hobbybob wrote:Do these door sensors provide a battery-level in Domoitcz, or at least a signal when the battery is getting low?

I'm looking into zwave door sensors at the moment, but this is a feature that seems to be missing on quite a few of these.
Battery level is present, even in Domoticz. As for the low level notification, I have to wait at least 2 years to tell :D

Also, could you please tell me a z-wave door sensor which doesn't report battery level? I have three different brands and all of them are reporting.

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Re: Cheap chinese z-wave products

Post by Hobbybob » Wednesday 07 June 2017 12:49

LouiS22 wrote:
Hobbybob wrote:Do these door sensors provide a battery-level in Domoitcz, or at least a signal when the battery is getting low?

I'm looking into zwave door sensors at the moment, but this is a feature that seems to be missing on quite a few of these.
Battery level is present, even in Domoticz. As for the low level notification, I have to wait at least 2 years to tell :D

Also, could you please tell me a z-wave door sensor which doesn't report battery level? I have three different brands and all of them are reporting.
I don't have a door sensor yet (I'm still orienting myself on them) but in searching this forum and google, I got the idea that this was something that is not widely implemented in z-wave sensors. My bad!

And when battery level is present, then there is always a possibility to generate messages through blocky or something. Just one of the two is sufficient, I just don't want to make a trip along all sensors every couple of weeks to make sure there is still juice in the batteries.

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Re: Cheap chinese z-wave products

Post by LouiS22 » Wednesday 07 June 2017 13:16

Hobbybob wrote:
LouiS22 wrote:
Hobbybob wrote:Do these door sensors provide a battery-level in Domoitcz, or at least a signal when the battery is getting low?

I'm looking into zwave door sensors at the moment, but this is a feature that seems to be missing on quite a few of these.
Battery level is present, even in Domoticz. As for the low level notification, I have to wait at least 2 years to tell :D

Also, could you please tell me a z-wave door sensor which doesn't report battery level? I have three different brands and all of them are reporting.
I don't have a door sensor yet (I'm still orienting myself on them) but in searching this forum and google, I got the idea that this was something that is not widely implemented in z-wave sensors. My bad!

And when battery level is present, then there is always a possibility to generate messages through blocky or something. Just one of the two is sufficient, I just don't want to make a trip along all sensors every couple of weeks to make sure there is still juice in the batteries.
You don't have to. The information is there by default.

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Re: Cheap chinese z-wave products

Post by blacksn0w » Wednesday 07 June 2017 13:59

Just bought 2 plugs for 24$ each at Fasttech a few days ago, now they are 21$ at AliExpress... Think i have to order them there too :lol:
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Post by LouiS22 » Wednesday 07 June 2017 15:05

blacksn0w wrote:Just bought 2 plugs for 24$ each at Fasttech a few days ago, now they are 21$ at AliExpress... Think i have to order them there too :lol:
Wonder if it's a stock cleanup and sign of new, upgraded/better versions arriving soon?

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Re: Cheap chinese z-wave products

Post by nmaster » Thursday 08 June 2017 10:55

Ordered 2 neo coolcam plugs and 2 flood sensors, very good deal.

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Post by krizzz » Friday 09 June 2017 7:28

Ordered one Flood sensor to give it a try....


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Re: Cheap chinese z-wave products

Post by gielie » Monday 12 June 2017 10:12

Is someone familiar with these sensors from Ihomecam.

Temp/humidity
Smoke
Gas
CO
- Vision ZU1401 USB Stick
- Aeotec MultiSensor 6
- FIBARO FGS222
- FIBARO FGWPE Wall Plug
- Everspring AN157
- Neo CoolCam Power plug
- Neo CoolCam PIR Sensor
- Popp Smoke Detector
- Toon
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Re: Cheap chinese z-wave products

Post by kurniawan77 » Monday 12 June 2017 14:50

micha_pr wrote:
Luigi87 wrote:...but i am not sure if they are supported by open zwave yet...
The "NAS-RC01Z"
https://nl.aliexpress.com/store/product ... 96163.html
and:
the "NAS-SC01Z-2"
https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/Smart-Ho ... .44.6Lxajd
Hi,

products will be supported by Domoticz - we just have them in test.
The XML is missing in this time, but it is not a problem.

But please note - the products are not "safety certified" in this time (but very nice,... agree ;) ).

Michael
Would be great! Leave us a comment when it's done...

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Post by LouiS22 » Monday 12 June 2017 18:18

gielie wrote:Is someone familiar with these sensors from Ihomecam.

Temp/humidity
Smoke
Gas
CO
From what it looks like they're Heimantech stuff, and supported by OZW. In Europe they're running under the brand Domux. FYI I've ordered a CO smoke sensor, will report back when arrived (but I'm 100% sure it will be recognized as Domux).

About the temp/hum one: there's a german z-wave review site, and they had issues with this stuff (battery died fast). Could be a faulty one, I don't know.

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Re: Cheap chinese z-wave products

Post by gielie » Tuesday 13 June 2017 10:14

LouiS22 wrote:
gielie wrote:Is someone familiar with these sensors from Ihomecam.

Temp/humidity
Smoke
Gas
CO
From what it looks like they're Heimantech stuff, and supported by OZW. In Europe they're running under the brand Domux. FYI I've ordered a CO smoke sensor, will report back when arrived (but I'm 100% sure it will be recognized as Domux).

About the temp/hum one: there's a german z-wave review site, and they had issues with this stuff (battery died fast). Could be a faulty one, I don't know.
Yes, they look exactly the same, i will order the temp/hum and CO, for that price.
- Vision ZU1401 USB Stick
- Aeotec MultiSensor 6
- FIBARO FGS222
- FIBARO FGWPE Wall Plug
- Everspring AN157
- Neo CoolCam Power plug
- Neo CoolCam PIR Sensor
- Popp Smoke Detector
- Toon
- Kodi Media Server

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Re: Cheap chinese z-wave products

Post by LouiS22 » Tuesday 13 June 2017 10:18

gielie wrote:
LouiS22 wrote:
gielie wrote:Is someone familiar with these sensors from Ihomecam.

Temp/humidity
Smoke
Gas
CO
From what it looks like they're Heimantech stuff, and supported by OZW. In Europe they're running under the brand Domux. FYI I've ordered a CO smoke sensor, will report back when arrived (but I'm 100% sure it will be recognized as Domux).

About the temp/hum one: there's a german z-wave review site, and they had issues with this stuff (battery died fast). Could be a faulty one, I don't know.
Yes, they look exactly the same, i will order the temp/hum and CO, for that price.
Just an idea: there's a french distributor called casabill, they have these stuff for even lower price. Minor problem: the reduced price is only valid for shipping in France. But I noticed you live in The Netherlands, maybe you have some french buddies near to you ;)

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Re: Cheap chinese z-wave products

Post by gielie » Tuesday 13 June 2017 12:43

LouiS22 wrote:
Just an idea: there's a french distributor called casabill, they have these stuff for even lower price. Minor problem: the reduced price is only valid for shipping in France. But I noticed you live in The Netherlands, maybe you have some french buddies near to you ;)
No, no friends in France, the price is very nice in the France shop. I see the discount works for me, i only have to pay shipping cost but then it still cheaper.
- Vision ZU1401 USB Stick
- Aeotec MultiSensor 6
- FIBARO FGS222
- FIBARO FGWPE Wall Plug
- Everspring AN157
- Neo CoolCam Power plug
- Neo CoolCam PIR Sensor
- Popp Smoke Detector
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Post by LouiS22 » Tuesday 13 June 2017 13:05

gielie wrote:
LouiS22 wrote:
Just an idea: there's a french distributor called casabill, they have these stuff for even lower price. Minor problem: the reduced price is only valid for shipping in France. But I noticed you live in The Netherlands, maybe you have some french buddies near to you ;)
No, no friends in France, the price is very nice in the France shop. I see the discount works for me, i only have to pay shipping cost but then it still cheaper.
Ah, they changed it then. 2 weeks ago it didn't work for me, had a chat with them. So they fixed the shipping issue, nice :)

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Re: Cheap chinese z-wave products

Post by EddyG » Friday 16 June 2017 11:27

Ordered at Casabill a Domux smoke detector (DX1SA-Z) and it took some time to get it included.
The OpenZWave database has an manufacturer id of 0260 but this Domux answered with 021c
Still in Domoticz is is not 'detected' as a smoke detector but just as
Sensor/Switch, Alarm Type/Switch, Alarm Level/Switch and Unknown/Switch
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Post by LouiS22 » Friday 16 June 2017 13:02

EddyG wrote:Ordered at Casabill a Domux smoke detector (DX1SA-Z) and it took some time to get it included.
The OpenZWave database has an manufacturer id of 0260 but this Domux answered with 021c
Still in Domoticz is is not 'detected' as a smoke detector but just as
Sensor/Switch, Alarm Type/Switch, Alarm Level/Switch and Unknown/Switch
Interesting. I've ordered one from Aliexpress (looks the same). I'll get back to you once it's arrived.

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Re: Cheap chinese z-wave products

Post by Hobbybob » Friday 16 June 2017 13:10

I also found these door/window detectors on Ali:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/alarme- ... 36108.html

45 euro for 3 detectors is a good price I think.

Anybody that recognizes these from the looks of them?

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Re: Cheap chinese z-wave products

Post by LouiS22 » Friday 16 June 2017 13:49

Hobbybob wrote:I also found these door/window detectors on Ali:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/alarme- ... 36108.html

45 euro for 3 detectors is a good price I think.

Anybody that recognizes these from the looks of them?
Interesting design, but not familiar. Could be a new player, who knows? Worst case scenario: It's a counterfeit chipped one. I have one with counterfeit chip (it's a Xenon brand, you can find it at aliexpress), it's not recognized by OZW, so I have an unknown device, but it's created the relevant sensors, I can see the on/off signal, and also the battery is reporting flawlessly.

So, you can try it, but don't blame if it's not working. You'll be the guinea pig for this one :D

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Re: Cheap chinese z-wave products

Post by gielie » Friday 16 June 2017 13:50

EddyG wrote:Ordered at Casabill a Domux smoke detector (DX1SA-Z) and it took some time to get it included.
The OpenZWave database has an manufacturer id of 0260 but this Domux answered with 021c
Still in Domoticz is is not 'detected' as a smoke detector but just as
Sensor/Switch, Alarm Type/Switch, Alarm Level/Switch and Unknown/Switch
Does he get the right product id (8002)? Maybe you can change the manufacture database number 0260 in 021c and include him again.
- Vision ZU1401 USB Stick
- Aeotec MultiSensor 6
- FIBARO FGS222
- FIBARO FGWPE Wall Plug
- Everspring AN157
- Neo CoolCam Power plug
- Neo CoolCam PIR Sensor
- Popp Smoke Detector
- Toon
- Kodi Media Server

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