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Fibaro FGBS001 and rain gauge

Post by chatainsim » Saturday 18 August 2018 16:55

Hello,

I'm thinking about using a Fibaro FGBS001 with a rain gauge like this one:
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Every time the bucket is full a switch is activated (every 0.2794 mm of rain).
How can I add this in Domoticz ?
Using a dummy rain switch and every time the FGBS001 is turn on add 0.2794 mm to the dummy rain ?

Do you think it's a good idea ?

Thank you.

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Re: Fibaro FGBS001 and rain gauge

Post by gizmocuz » Saturday 18 August 2018 17:50

You can also invest in a 433Mhz rain sensor

Alecto WS-1200

And then use a RFXTRX433 or RTL-SDR 433Mhz receiver
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Re: Fibaro FGBS001 and rain gauge

Post by chatainsim » Sunday 19 August 2018 22:01

gizmocuz wrote:
Saturday 18 August 2018 17:50
You can also invest in a 433Mhz rain sensor

Alecto WS-1200

And then use a RFXTRX433 or RTL-SDR 433Mhz receiver
Thanks gizmocuz but for the RFXTRX433 is too expensive.
I've found this script: viewtopic.php?t=23460#p180690
It will do the job as I already have a Fibaro FGBS001 so I just have to buy the rain gauge (around 14€)

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Re: Fibaro FGBS001 and rain gauge

Post by gizmocuz » Monday 20 August 2018 9:09

Home automation ain't cheap, and you want good hardware.
Of course, on 433Mhz you can do A LOT more (like switches, temp,..)
I see you can buy one for 72,60 (http://www.rfxcom.com/epages/78165469.s ... ansceivers)
So for 80 bugs you have a solid rain gauge.
And you can do a lot more in the feature
Yes, it is a 'little' bit more then the zwave solution, but you probably receive some temp/wind/... sensors from around the house, or might invest in some later
Instead of the FGBS00 (40 euro!), you can also get yourself an Arduino (2-3 dollar) and directly connect this to your machine or greate a mesh network with MySensors.org
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Re: Fibaro FGBS001 and rain gauge

Post by lost » Tuesday 21 August 2018 15:59

gizmocuz wrote:
Monday 20 August 2018 9:09
Home automation ain't cheap
(...)
Instead of the FGBS00 (40 euro!), you can also get yourself an Arduino (2-3 dollar) and directly connect this to your machine or greate a mesh network with MySensors.org
So, home automation can be cheap... if you DIY! For industrial products, this is indeed surprising.
IMO, dedicated hardware vendor margins explain the difference & home automation cost.

Market was tiny a few years ago and may explain this, but new competitors (look Xiaomi) are challenging current ones.

Main risk is to see current makers (with technologies they use, like z-wave most of us invested in) collapse if they do not update their retail price according to sales volumes very quickly.

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Re: Fibaro FGBS001 and rain gauge

Post by chatainsim » Wednesday 22 August 2018 10:58

gizmocuz wrote:
Monday 20 August 2018 9:09
Home automation ain't cheap, and you want good hardware.
Of course, on 433Mhz you can do A LOT more (like switches, temp,..)
I see you can buy one for 72,60 (http://www.rfxcom.com/epages/78165469.s ... ansceivers)
So for 80 bugs you have a solid rain gauge.
And you can do a lot more in the feature
Yes, it is a 'little' bit more then the zwave solution, but you probably receive some temp/wind/... sensors from around the house, or might invest in some later
Instead of the FGBS00 (40 euro!), you can also get yourself an Arduino (2-3 dollar) and directly connect this to your machine or greate a mesh network with MySensors.org
Yes, I know that Home automation ain't cheap.;
And I've already test the Mysensors solution but wasn't reliable for me has my sensors failed regularly and I drop this solution for now.
Maybe some day I'll test again.
Regarding 433Mhz, I won't invest in more (I have a RFLink but need to review the antenna) because I have the Xiaomi gateway with a lot's of temp, door and motion sensors.

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Re: Fibaro FGBS001 and rain gauge

Post by gizmocuz » Wednesday 22 August 2018 11:07

If you already own a RFLink, then for ~20 bugs you get the electo, and also have a free outside antenna as well
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Re: Fibaro FGBS001 and rain gauge

Post by chatainsim » Wednesday 22 August 2018 16:23

gizmocuz wrote:
Wednesday 22 August 2018 11:07
If you already own a RFLink, then for ~20 bugs you get the electo, and also have a free outside antenna as well
What do you mean by outside antenna ?

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Re: Fibaro FGBS001 and rain gauge

Post by gizmocuz » Friday 24 August 2018 14:47

sorry, i was working with antenna's that day... i meant that there is a temperature sensor included in that device as well
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Re: Fibaro FGBS001 and rain gauge

Post by mantoz » Friday 21 September 2018 1:48

gizmocuz wrote:
Saturday 18 August 2018 17:50
You can also invest in a 433Mhz rain sensor

Alecto WS-1200

And then use a RFXTRX433 or RTL-SDR 433Mhz receiver
Hi,
I'm using RTL-SDR (rtl_433) on domoticz for reading several sensors (no problems).
I just bought an Alecto WS1200 in order to read the rain sensor.
Unfortunately I'm not able to decode it... rtl_433 is called with -G (to decode any known protocol), Domoticz is set to add new sensors, but no sensors appear from the rain gauge.

Any help is appreciated...
thanks
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Post by Nautilus » Friday 21 September 2018 2:23

chatainsim wrote:
Wednesday 22 August 2018 10:58
Regarding 433Mhz, I won't invest in more (I have a RFLink but need to review the antenna) because I have the Xiaomi gateway with a lot's of temp, door and motion sensors.
This works with RFLink:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Wireles ... 07674.html

Under 20€ delivered :)

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Re: Fibaro FGBS001 and rain gauge

Post by gizmocuz » Friday 21 September 2018 6:24

@Nautilus, this seems like the Alecto WS-1200

https://www.alecto.nl/weerstation-1200

Got one myself, great device for this value!

So if the original device does not work with the rtl_433, i think this one will not either.

@mantoz:, try rtl_433 from the command line too

else a RFXCom or RFLink will solve your problem
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Re: Fibaro FGBS001 and rain gauge

Post by Nautilus » Friday 21 September 2018 14:50

gizmocuz wrote:
Friday 21 September 2018 6:24
@Nautilus, this seems like the Alecto WS-1200

https://www.alecto.nl/weerstation-1200

Got one myself, great device for this value!

So if the original device does not work with the rtl_433, i think this one will not either.

@mantoz:, try rtl_433 from the command line too

else a RFXCom or RFLink will solve your problem
Yes, looks like it's the same device. My RFLink is using Aurel transceiver (bought the complete set from Nodo-shop) and I can at least say that is works very well with the rain meter I linked earlier.

Maybe I don't fully understand, but if mantoz already has RFLink and is now looking to buy just the rain meter, it should work the same way as in my setup, no?

Or is the RTL-SDR (rtl_433) an alternative transceiver for RFLink? Then it of course might be that it doesn't work as well as with the Aurel.

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Re: Fibaro FGBS001 and rain gauge

Post by mantoz » Friday 21 September 2018 17:43

Hi,
thanks for the tips, I will try from the command line as soon as possible.
I currently use rtl_433 with a SDR usb key which I mainly use for outdoor sensors on 433MHz. It works 100% ok with my Oregon Scientific external probe.
I thought it should work with the rain meter but no success for now.

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Re: Fibaro FGBS001 and rain gauge

Post by Nautilus » Friday 21 September 2018 19:56

Ah, sorry I didn’t notice that you were not the original poster. I thought you already had RFLink and were looking to buy a rain gauge. My bad :)

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