Low cost window/door sensor

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Re: Low cost window/door sensor

Post by SweetPants » Thursday 30 July 2015 20:53

ThinkPad wrote:Please discuss about KaKu and other doorcontacts in a separate (new?) topic. This topic is only for PT2262/EVxxxx contacts.
This topic already mentioned the AMST-606, Fibaro Cateyes, PIR motion Sensors and Smoke detectors, so I don't see the problem mentioning the AMST606 again.

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Re: Low cost window/door sensor

Post by nood » Friday 31 July 2015 11:10

sploutchi wrote:Thanks for the interesting information roblom !
With this operation, do you have succed to have "windows open"/"window closed" status ? maybe with a script ?

Thx !
I guess it would be possible if you would mount your sensor so that the magnet passes each time you open AND close your door. Then it should be possible to toggle the status of the door on each pulse with a script. Should work fine as long as each pulse is detected.

Edit: I made a simple blockly that toggles a dummy doorsensor. My actual doorsensor is a push on button with an off delay of 1 sec in domoticz. Works pretty good so far :-)

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Re: Low cost window/door sensor

Post by Heisenberg » Friday 07 August 2015 23:04

I 'm using this PIR sensor for a while now. Although it works perfect with Domoticz the battery drain is like crazy. Every 2 months I have to replace the 9Volt battery. I was wondering if there is a way to replace the battery with a power adapter or something to avoid battery drain. Any tips appreciated!
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Low cost window/door sensor

Post by D'rMorris » Saturday 08 August 2015 12:03

I have exactly the same PIR and the battery usage is indeed quite high. I also have a PIR from HomeEasy, which I like better. It has a automatic coding system, better than fiddling with jumpers on the chinese ones. And you can set the light intensity and turnoff time. Got them at pollin.de

You can indeed hook up a power adapter to them. Just look for a 9v adapter

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Re: Low cost window/door sensor

Post by Heisenberg » Saturday 08 August 2015 14:48

D'rMorris wrote:I have exactly the same PIR and the battery usage is indeed quite high. I also have a PIR from HomeEasy, which I like better. It has a automatic coding system, better than fiddling with jumpers on the chinese ones. And you can set the light intensity and turnoff time. Got them at pollin.de

You can indeed hook up a power adapter to them. Just look for a 9v adapter

What model of HomeEasy PIR did you buy at pollin.de and how long does it take to ship to Netherlands?

I also have found this connector. I assume this will work with a 9volt adapter.
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Re: Low cost window/door sensor

Post by D'rMorris » Saturday 08 August 2015 14:51

I have a HE403EU and it ships quite fast (live in NL myself as well). I think it was a couple of days. Yes, that connector should work. Please note the polarisation of the adapter plug. For most the outside is ground and inside the plug load, some have it the other way around and some are switchable.

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Re: Low cost window/door sensor

Post by Hesmink » Saturday 15 August 2015 14:52

sstolk wrote:@Derik,
The settings for the jumpers as topicstarter mentioned.
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I have two of exactly the same one as in this picture.
It's recognized as 'Lighting 4' but somehow I cannot get them to take another ID.
It's always 0000000

How many jumpers do I need to install for the address? Just the one doesn't work for me.

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Re: Low cost window/door sensor

Post by Hesmink » Saturday 15 August 2015 14:58

Looking closer, I have a different chip: pt2264, brand: FTC

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Re: Low cost window/door sensor

Post by Hesmink » Saturday 15 August 2015 15:10

Hesmink wrote:Looking closer, I have a different chip: pt2264, brand: FTC
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Re: Low cost window/door sensor

Post by Hesmink » Monday 17 August 2015 21:01

Finally got one to go on another channel: A0 high, A7 low.

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Re: Low cost window/door sensor

Post by jarwis » Wednesday 11 November 2015 15:09

I've bought a low cost window/door sensor from dx.com and can confirm that it is compatible with Domoticz.

OUDI AD-87 433MHz Wireless Door Contact - White
http://www.dx.com/p/oudi-ad-87-433mhz-w ... kM1GrcrKUk

Photos:
Unpacking:
https://goo.gl/photos/sjYCo5VuuJGx5JkQ9

Front:
https://goo.gl/photos/zcXtRsiaBecJYRKZA

Back:
https://goo.gl/photos/McSxwnBaXGNznDvm9

Back cover opened, the circuit visible:
https://goo.gl/photos/5yjEhXrKqwgzDq5e6

Close up of the circuit:
https://goo.gl/photos/wG7F8ZoJDgbwpyc67

Back side of the circuit:
https://goo.gl/photos/Qg3r2Yi3FyWoAE3w8

Pros:
  • Recognized as 12 RFXtrx433E AD5964 0 Etuovi Lighting 4 PT2262
  • Low cost (for me 4,49 euros)
Cons:
  • Sends only ON status when the magnet is taken away. Sends nothing when the magnet is brought back. I need to use 10 sec OFF delay to switch it off.
  • Uses a 'non standard' battery (23A 12V). One spare battery costs 2 euros at the local store!
  • Doesn't have any jumper switches
  • Delivery to Finland took 18 days
If I buy another one, does anyone know if they interfere with each other or do they get unique IDs? (and yes, I'm a newbie and this is my first post.)

UPDATE 9th December 2015: I've ordered a second sensor. It works perfectly and was delivered in 23 days.

UPDATE 29th August 2016: The battery lasted nine (9) months in the unit mounted on the front door.
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Re: Low cost window/door sensor

Post by Moppersmurf » Friday 13 November 2015 17:34

First I want to thank Raspberry Piet for the great idea. Pictures helped me to make my own.
I ordered 3 of those cheap door sensors and all work fine at different ID's.
But I do see a strange thing. Every time there is new mail I can see in devices there is a new device made.
brievenbus sensor.jpg
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But since installing it I get a lot of new devices every day some more. The only thing I can think of is that the sensor is creating them.
Anyone know what to do about this?

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	85	RFXtrx433E	755555	0	Deursensor 1	Lighting 4	PT2262	On	7	-	Zet als ongebruiktNaam wijzigen Log	2015-11-13 10:56:43
  Turn Off	86	RFXtrx433E	5D5555	0	Deursensor 2	Lighting 4	PT2262	On	7	-	Zet als ongebruiktNaam wijzigen Log	2015-11-13 10:56:47
  Turn On	87	RFXtrx433E	575555	0	Brievenbus sensor	Lighting 4	PT2262	Off	8	-	Zet als ongebruiktNaam wijzigen Log	2015-11-13 13:09:00
  Turn Off	88	RFXtrx433E	554015	0	Unknown	Lighting 4	PT2262	On	6	-	Lamp/schakelaar toevoegenNaam wijzigen Log	2015-11-12 18:48:25
  Turn Off	89	RFXtrx433E	575515	0	Unknown	Lighting 4	PT2262	On	6	-	Lamp/schakelaar toevoegenNaam wijzigen Log	2015-11-06 21:51:03
  Turn Off	90	RFXtrx433E	475545	0	Unknown	Lighting 4	PT2262	On	6	-	Lamp/schakelaar toevoegenNaam wijzigen Log	2015-11-06 21:51:04
  Turn Off	91	RFXtrx433E	574555	0	Unknown	Lighting 4	PT2262	On	6	-	Lamp/schakelaar toevoegenNaam wijzigen Log	2015-11-06 21:51:04
  Turn Off	92	RFXtrx433E	04F0D5	0	Unknown	Lighting 4	PT2262	On	5	-	Lamp/schakelaar toevoegenNaam wijzigen Log	2015-11-12 22:11:16
  Turn Off	93	RFXtrx433E	040014	0	Unknown	Lighting 4	PT2262	On	5	-	Lamp/schakelaar toevoegenNaam wijzigen Log	2015-11-12 22:11:17
  Turn Off	94	RFXtrx433E	554014	0	Unknown	Lighting 4	PT2262	On	6	-	Lamp/schakelaar toevoegenNaam wijzigen Log	2015-11-12 21:48:56
  Turn Off	95	RFXtrx433E	500015	0	Unknown	Lighting 4	PT2262	On	7	-	Lamp/schakelaar toevoegenNaam wijzigen Log	2015-11-12 07:54:53
  Turn Off	96	RFXtrx433E	504015	0	Unknown	Lighting 4	PT2262	On	8	-	Lamp/schakelaar toevoegenNaam wijzigen Log	2015-11-12 07:47:49
  Turn Off	97	RFXtrx433E	501015	0	Unknown	Lighting 4	PT2262	On	8	-	Lamp/schakelaar toevoegenNaam wijzigen Log	2015-11-11 17:56:43
  Turn Off	98	RFXtrx433E	041014	0	Unknown	Lighting 4	PT2262	On	5	-	Lamp/schakelaar toevoegenNaam wijzigen Log	2015-11-07 17:24:15
  Turn Off	99	RFXtrx433E	000015	0	Unknown	Lighting 4	PT2262	On	5	-	Lamp/schakelaar toevoegenNaam wijzigen Log	2015-11-13 07:51:56
  Turn Off	100	RFXtrx433E	00B40A	0	Unknown	Lighting 4	PT2262	On	5	-	Lamp/schakelaar toevoegenNaam wijzigen Log	2015-11-07 21:19:18
  Turn Off	101	RFXtrx433E	040015	0	Unknown	Lighting 4	PT2262	On	5	-	Lamp/schakelaar toevoegenNaam wijzigen Log	2015-11-12 16:42:51
  Turn Off	102	RFXtrx433E	55F0D5	0	Unknown	Lighting 4	PT2262	On	6	-	Lamp/schakelaar toevoegenNaam wijzigen Log	2015-11-12 21:48:56
  Turn Off	103	RFXtrx433E	55E015	0	Unknown	Lighting 4	PT2262	On	5	-	Lamp/schakelaar toevoegenNaam wijzigen Log	2015-11-08 17:59:01
  Turn Off	104	RFXtrx433E	000014	0	Unknown	Lighting 4	PT2262	On	5	-	Lamp/schakelaar toevoegenNaam wijzigen Log	2015-11-13 07:56:12
  Turn Off	105	RFXtrx433E	004015	0	Unknown	Lighting 4	PT2262	On	6	-	Lamp/schakelaar toevoegenNaam wijzigen Log	2015-11-08 20:28:05
  Turn Off	106	RFXtrx433E	501014	0	Unknown	Lighting 4	PT2262	On	8	-	Lamp/schakelaar toevoegenNaam wijzigen Log	2015-11-13 07:53:12
  Turn Off	107	RFXtrx433E	550015	0	Unknown	Lighting 4	PT2262	On	5	-	Lamp/schakelaar toevoegenNaam wijzigen Log	2015-11-09 07:10:39
  Turn Off	108	RFXtrx433E	500014	0	Unknown	Lighting 4	PT2262	On	8	-	Lamp/schakelaar toevoegenNaam wijzigen Log	2015-11-13 07:53:09
  Turn Off	109	RFXtrx433E	504014	0	Unknown	Lighting 4	PT2262	On	8	-	Lamp/schakelaar toevoegenNaam wijzigen Log	2015-11-13 07:53:13
  Turn Off	110	RFXtrx433E	204014	0	Unknown	Lighting 4	PT2262	On	5	-	Lamp/schakelaar toevoegenNaam wijzigen Log	2015-11-11 07:11:19
  Turn Off	111	RFXtrx433E	6CC4A1	0	Unknown	Lighting 4	PT2262	On	5	-	Lamp/schakelaar toevoegenNaam wijzigen Log	2015-11-11 09:21:00
  Turn Off	112	RFXtrx433E	100015	0	Unknown	Lighting 4	PT2262	On	5	-	Lamp/schakelaar toevoegenNaam wijzigen Log	2015-11-13 06:53:14
  Turn Off	113	RFXtrx433E	6CC4A2	0	Unknown	Lighting 4	PT2262	On	5	-	Lamp/schakelaar toevoegenNaam wijzigen Log	2015-11-13 09:16:34
I have a couple of KAKU switches i use. Read somewere that ARC en Lighting4 don't work together. But everything does work. On the settings page of the RFXtrx433E
Lighting4 is ticked and ARC not.

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Re: Low cost window/door sensor

Post by b_weijenberg » Friday 13 November 2015 17:46

Disable "Accept new Hardware Devices" in Setup – Settings to avoid adding unwanted/unknown devices.
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Re: Low cost window/door sensor

Post by Moppersmurf » Friday 13 November 2015 20:13

Oh, is that it. I was under the impression that it didn't matter if the checkbox was ticked. I thought you also had to press the 5 minutes button.
Thanks!

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Re: Low cost window/door sensor

Post by Moppersmurf » Saturday 14 November 2015 23:14

Does anyone have experience with using the sensor outside?

I want to use It outside, The place I want to use it is always dry (protected from rain anyway).
I'm thinking of wrapping it in plastic foil to protect it.
The thing is, I bought a KAKU pir but it's range is not that good. The cheap sensor works fine.

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Re: Low cost window/door sensor

Post by ThinkPad » Wednesday 18 November 2015 15:21

Shouldn't be a problem.

I have a IP-camera that is meant for inside, running outside for over 2 years now. It hangs under a carport, so it is shielded from rain. It survived the Dutch 'cold' winters without a problem.

Increasing the range of 433Mhz is quite easy actually, just remove the existing antenna and solder a wire of 17cm length to the original soldering point. The 17cm is the ideal length for 433Mhz.
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Re: Low cost window/door sensor

Post by Moppersmurf » Monday 23 November 2015 17:25

Thanks good Idea by the way. Couple of weeks ago I ordered a IP dome cam outdoor.
After receiving and testing it I found out that I made a mistake and ordered a indoor version.
I want to place it under my carport as well. Will give it a try.

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Re: Low cost window/door sensor

Post by salvation » Wednesday 23 December 2015 20:52

jarwis wrote:I've bought a low cost window/door sensor from dx.com and can confirm that it is compatible with Domoticz.

OUDI AD-87 433MHz Wireless Door Contact - White
http://www.dx.com/p/oudi-ad-87-433mhz-w ... kM1GrcrKUk

Photos:
Unpacking:
https://goo.gl/photos/sjYCo5VuuJGx5JkQ9

Front:
https://goo.gl/photos/zcXtRsiaBecJYRKZA

Back:
https://goo.gl/photos/McSxwnBaXGNznDvm9

Back cover opened, the circuit visible:
https://goo.gl/photos/5yjEhXrKqwgzDq5e6

Close up of the circuit:
https://goo.gl/photos/wG7F8ZoJDgbwpyc67

Back side of the circuit:
https://goo.gl/photos/Qg3r2Yi3FyWoAE3w8

Pros:
  • Recognized as 12 RFXtrx433E AD5964 0 Etuovi Lighting 4 PT2262
  • Low cost (for me 4,49 euros)
Cons:
  • Sends only ON status when the magnet is taken away. Sends nothing when the magnet is brought back. I need to use 10 sec OFF delay to switch it off.
  • Uses a 'non standard' battery (23A 12V)
  • Doesn't have any jumper switches
  • Delivery to Finland took 18 days
If I buy another one, does anyone know if they interfere with each other or do they get unique IDs? (and yes, I'm a newbie and this is my first post.)

UPDATE 9th December 2015: I've ordered a second sensor. It works perfectly and was delivered in 23 days.
Tnx for this post, I ordered two myself.

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Re: Low cost window/door sensor

Post by HoLeeShiet » Wednesday 23 December 2015 21:22

The Oudi sensor looks nice. Did you have any problems with the range? And what protocol to select in RFXcom?
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Re: Low cost window/door sensor

Post by khildare » Wednesday 06 January 2016 19:43

Hi there,

I also ordered some OUDI AD-87. But, till now I can't get them connected to Domoticz. I use a rfxcom433e with 250 (=latest) firmware.

@Jarvis: Can you explain how you got these door sensor added to Domoticz?

keep you all informed if I solved this.

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